Louis Ménard and his wife Klanhaywin

[fmbenoist]

Louis Ménard, a French-Canadian, took a Sioux wife who, according to a few websites, was named Klanhaywin.

They had at least eight children. Here are the one's I know of for sure:

1. Amelia Ménard.
She was born on March 7, probably 1828-1833. She married first Charles Rouleau/Rulo. He was born in Detroit in 1824 and died at Rulo, Richardson County, Nebraska on June 29, 1873. Apparently, Amelia also married "Timber Missouri" and "Charles Spider."

2. Sophie Ménard.
She was born ca. 1837. She married Eli Bedard, a French-Canadian, and had at least two sons. Eli (Jr.) was born ca. 1854 at Sergeant Bluff and Emmanuel was born ca. 1856 in the Nebraska Territory.

3. Rosalie Ménard.
She was born in 1838 and died in 1865 in Sioux City, where she is remembered to this day as the "First Bride." She married Joseph Léonais around 1853. They had children Joseph, Josephine, Rosalie, and William.

4. William Ménard.
He was born ca. 1842.

5. Louis Ménard (Jr.).
He was born ca. 1846. He married a woman named Mary.

6. and 7. two more sons.

8. a daughter who is supposed to have married Auguste Traversie (his known wives are Félicité "Scar Arm" and Blue Blanket Woman -- could one of them be the daughter of Louis Ménard and Klanhaywin?)


If anyone has any more information on this family, I'd really appreciate hearing from you. I'd especially like to learn more about Klanhaywin and the Ménard girl who is supposed to have married Auguste Traversie.

[hermin1]

fmbenoist:
we used to hike down old Hwy 75 to South Ravine and climb to up the hill where her grave is located. You get a beautiful view of the surrond land in nebraska,etc.er grave is known as "The first Bride's Grave".

[hermin1]

You might contact the sioux City Public Library here in Sioux city, as teheir reference desk may have some resources and/or information on her family. the phone numbr is 712-255-2933.

[hermin1]

I found a baptismal record for:
Twins Rosalie and Mary Menard Age 3 years
Date: June 13, 1840 at fort Union,SD
Parents are listed as Louis Menardand Indian Woman
Officiant; Father Christian Hoecken
__________
12/16/2007
correction: I apologize, as I misread the records in the Teepee and the church. rosalie did not have a twin sister. there was a 3 yrs. difference between her and her sister.Melanie.

[hermin1]

would you have any vital data for Louis ,suchas when he was born and when he died?

[fmbenoist]

I just got back from the library, where I found some more info on Louis in an article in South Dakota Historical Collections, Vol. IV (1908). The article is titled "French Pioneers of Sioux City and South Dakota" and was written by Constant R. Marks.

I'll reproduce the relevant text here:

"The first substantial settlement in Sioux City and vicinity was made by Frenchmen who had been engaged with the fur companies up the Missouri river. Most of them had Indian wives and wanted to settle down to farming. Northwestern Iowa had been given up by the Indians and was being surveyed; the land was coming to market and they would therefore, be better protected from raids by hostile bands. From 1848 to 1856, quite a number of these French had settled along the Big Sioux, and Missouri river near the mouth of the Big Sioux; many entered the land from the government when it came into the market, others sold their claims to newcomers. They may be classed, however, as the early settlers of South Dakota. The chief of these was Theophile Bruguier, who deserves separate special mention elsewhere. Among the others were, first, Joseph Leonnais, who was born at Sorel near Quebec, Canada, in 1818, and went to St. Louis, Mo., when about 19 years old. He made the trip up the Missouri river on the steamer Antelope, about the year 1838, in the employ of the P. Chouteau Co. He stopped at Fort Pierre and on June 15th, went on up the Yellowstone in a mackinaw, cordelling it up the river. There were fifteen men in the party. He said there was a fort at the mouth of the Yellowstone called Fort Union. He was carrying dispatches. He got back to Fort Pierre the next January (1839.) Henry Picotte was then in command there. He staid there until the June following, then going down the river, reached St. Louis July 4th. He said some of the men with him up the river were La Plant, who settled later at the mouth of the Big Sioux in South Daktoa. August Traversier, his cousin, who went up the Missouri seven years before he did, Paul Paquette and Guiseppi Marivelli, a Spaniard. Leonnais went back up the Missouri again in 1841 on Capt. La Barge's boat. A large number of men had the fever and ague on this trip; forty of them were put off the boat opposite Fort Vermillion, S. D., with fivre crackers and one pound of pork each to make the trip to Fort Pierre. It took them ten days to reach there and all the game they killed was one antelope. He staid at Pierre a year, and came down the river again probably in a flatboat as he slept one night, where Sioux City is now located, close to the place where ten years later, he built the first house in Sioux City.

"He said in those days there was no white person seen from below St. Joe, Mo., to Fort Pierre, except at the forts. In 1843 he came by boat from St. Louis to St. Joe, and from there on horseback with a party of three, two horses each; they went on that year up to Fort Benton. They got better pay where they had horses. Leonnais kept up his work for the fur company till about 1851, when he married at Fort Pierre a half-blood daughter of Louis Menard, who had shortly before that come to Fort Pierre from Minnesota with his squaw wife and a family of buxom half-breed girls, who set the young Frenchmen there wild. There were some boys also. South Dakota has now, as residents, a large number of the descendants of Louis Menard. Elie Bedard married one daughter, Sophia, and Charles Rouleau (Rulo) married another, Amelia. Rulo later founded the town of Rulo, Neb. The old man, Louis Menard, died there. There were three sons of Louis Menard. One, Louis Menard, lived at Rosebud agency a few years ago, and the two other sons of Louis, Leon and George, died in South Dakota. Mrs. Amelia Rulo became a widow and married twice thereafter, first known as Missouri Timber and later became Amelia Spider. She was living at Rosebud agency a few years ago. She had eleven children. These three brothers-in-law, Leonnais, Bedard and Rulo, settled in Sioux City about 1852."

"Joseph Leonnais had four children. The eldest, Joseph, was born at Sioux City May 19th, 1853, and is still living there, and was the first child born in Sioux City. He has lived a part of the time in South Dakota at the Indian agencies. A daughter, Josephine, married one Louis Parent, and had six children and lived at Sioux City for many years. A daughter, Rosalie, born about 1858, married Alex Charboneaux, a Canadian Frenchman, and went to Cheyenne agency and then to Rosebud agency, where she died about 1893. Her husband married again and is a well-to-do cattleman in South Dakota.

"Rosalie, wife of Joseph Leonnais, died at Sioux City about 1862, and was buried on a high bluff near the Floyd monument, where the early Indians buried their dead.

"Joseph Leonnais died May 25th, 1900.

"Elie Bedard and Charles Rulo, brothers-in-law of Leonnais, lived a few years in Sioux City then moved to Rulo, Neb., where they died. They had worked for the fur companies in Dakota for many years.

"August Traversier, spoken of before, went up the Missouri river in 1831 or 1832 and worked for the fur companies. He married a squaw wife and had quite a family of children. He settled in Sioux City about 1850, and resided one mile below where the Floyd monument is located, and he kept a trading post and travelers' station, and his home was headquarters for the French and Indians, being more commodious than the other houses. The county was organized and the first court held at his house, and the first murder occurred there, growing out of rivalry at a dance there between two Americans over one of the comely daughters of Louis Menard. Traversier remained at Sioux City until about 1875, when he went up into South Daktoa; his descendants, many of them, reside there."

[scararm]

Hello
Theres a book called Past and Present Woodbury County,Iowa these people are mentioned in it. You can get a copy at the Timber Lake South Dakota Museum also at the Davenport Libarary in Iowa. And these guys are listed in the Ziebach County History Book in Dupree

[scararm]

Hello
I found a Tasinatowin Blue Blanket women named Nancy Fisher in the Flandreau First Presbyterian Church records on this site. Also a Blue Blanket women named Jennie Robinson dob about 1840 in Mike Stevens tree in Roots web also on this site. Hope that helps

[sav]

An Ancestry.com search, from the U.S. Indian Census Schedules, 1885-1940, showed many results, from various Sioux Communitie(s). Under the name/text "Tasinatowin".
The one Census I found, with the earliest "Tasinatowin" by birthdate. Was

Name: Tasinatowin
Date of Birth: Abt 1828
Age: 58
Gender: Female
Relation to Head of Household: Wife
Spouse's Name: Samuel
Tribe: Santee Sioux (Sioux)
Last Census Number: 390
Census Date: 30 Jun 1886
Household Members:

Samuel Wakinyangi M Man 54
Tasinatowin F Wife 58
Mazakininwnina F Mother-In-Law 72



Sav

[scararm]

Hello

I found a register of decendants Thomas Goulet its written in french. I printed it out but it dosn't say what the site address is on the pages I know it a family tree maker program the way its set up. Was Looking for Honore Picotte was one of the links I clicked on.

It states that a Henry (Honnore)Goulet Born 1820 in Louiseville St antioine Quebec Canada died March 1892 In Greenwood, South Dakota Scout who spoke the Sioux Language 8 children Wife is a Pelagie Meinard born 1824 Nebraska Territory Died before 1863. 2nd wife Louisa Giroux born 1830 dakota nebraska territory died 1876 cause Henry had New Marriage licence in 1876 did Louisa die. children Mary Goulet B 1864 Marrys John Rondell Maragret Bouleette 1864 marrys Edgar Miles Keith they have a child Winona Mary Kieth b 1885 she marries James Wilson Garvie.B 1862 Minnesota he was also married to Anna Red Wing, Alot of other names listed but theys ones I saw people asking about.
Scararm

[scararm]

scararm said:

Hello

I found a register of decendants Thomas Goulet its written in french. I printed it out but it dosn't say what the site address is on the pages I know it a family tree maker program the way its set up. Was Looking for Honore Picotte was one of the links I clicked on.

It states that a Henry (Honnore)Goulet Born 1820 in Louiseville St antioine Quebec Canada died March 1892 In Greenwood, South Dakota Scout who spoke the Sioux Language 8 children Wife is a Pelagie Meinard born 1824 Nebraska Territory Died before 1863. 2nd wife Louisa Giroux born 1830 dakota nebraska territory died 1876 cause Henry had New Marriage licence in 1876 did Louisa die. children Mary Goulet B 1864 Marrys John Rondell Maragret Bouleette 1864 marrys Edgar Miles Keith they have a child Winona Mary Kieth b 1885 she marries James Wilson Garvie.B 1862 Minnesota he was also married to Anna Red Wing, Alot of other names listed but theys ones I saw people asking about.
Scararm

Whoops sorry about the spelling

[spydercat2001]

Hello,

I am new here and my name is Margaret. I am looking for info on my Goulet line. The post from Feb 12, 2008 from scararm mentions my greatx3 grandparents, Henri Goulet and Louisa Giroux. I have seen the Thomas Goulet files and they gave me a lot of info. I am still stuck on whom Louisa Giroux (previously married to fur trader and Indian scout, Andrew Dripp. I descend as follows: Henri Goulet/Louisa Giroux, Charles Goulette 1871-1953 (born shortly before Louisa died) /Christina Mae Bechtold, Christina Mary Goulette/Charles Ajamy, Jeanne Ajamy/Leonard Koch Fuller and my parents, Diane Gene Fuller and Herbert James Paquette. I am looking for a Sioux Chief "Feather In Ear" or Wi Ya Ko Mi. Oral history states this chief was Louisa Giroux's father. I can not verify any of it so I could use some pointers on how to go about this search. Louisa was born about 1833 in the Nebraska-Dakota Territory. She married my greatx3grandfather Henri Goulet in Arago, NE on June 28, 1863. Henry died about 1892. Any suggestions I appreciate. Thanks for your time. I have attached a picture of Louisa Giroux and one of Chief Feather In Ear. I would like to find any info to see if they are connected.

Thanks.

Margaret

[hermin1]

Margaret: I suggest you contact the South Dakota Historical society Archives in Pierre,SD they have a lot of records there. Ms. virginia hansen(or Hanson) may be able to help you.
I would also suggest you contact earth7w by Personal message and ask for her help also.

i have run across the name of this chief, but can not remember where on the Net.I was not looking for him, so I didn'twrite anything down about him.
the surname Giroux however is French, so her mother may have been the daughter of this chief feather In Ear.
I have a Louisa Giroux born in Nebraska-Dakota Terr. @1830. she died in 1875.
another possible reference is The Tepee And The Church. The records have been posted by Vicky in the Church Records section of our web site.

[hermin1]

margaret: I found a Louisa Giroux, daughter of Unknown Giroux and Wiyaka Napin. Louisa is listed as born 1833 in Yankton, Dakota Territory.
i am thinking that chief Feather In Ear may have been a Yank5ton chief. The information was at www.rootsweb.com at the world Connect Project link.
the person who submitted the tree on Louisa(there are several entries for Louisa giroux) gave her Email as:
[e-mail](if this don't work, the little U in her email address)/The person's name is MaryRathbun. You might try contacting her and see if she can help you also.

[rickgerlach]

hermin1,
I have a family tree that takes my nieces and nephew back to Wiyaka Napin and Heart Woman. He's on page 16 of Remember your Relatives. I have seen other people who trace back to him on the M-K Law plaintiff list.Do you know anything about this?

[peacekeeper]

this is in regards to feather in ear.

jackie


books.google.com/books?id=hkMSAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA118&dq=chief+feather+in+ear&ie=ISO-8859-1

[hermin1]

It would help if you would post a copy of the page from Remember Your Relatives.

[peacekeeper]

hermin i do not have it. do you? or are you referring to someone else? i will see if i can find it but you are much quicker than i! you are the speed queen!!!!!!
jackie